JoeRich

I am praying for the people of our country, for the people of the world that we reach through twitter and FB, and I am praying for our leaders and our President, that they may know the love of God that we know. \o/

The CDC and HHS has started to become more transparent and forthright with their concerns and they admit that there are things to be concerned about as far as these vaccines go. I am thankful that these organizations are trying to turn themselves around. It has been heartening to watch them be more responsive and honest about the public’s concerns.

I balance what is in the older vaccines with what I come in contact every day. I have some broken mercury fillings and I suspect that they aren’t so healthy either. I eat fish and shellfish, the tamale in lobster is toxic if you eat too much too often. We are doing better in cleaning up our environment and being better stewards of Gods gift to us but we have a long way to go.

Alzheimer’s is a scary disease. I wonder about those spray deodorants that we used to use that had aluminum chlorhydrate in them.

So many things are implicated as possibly bad for us and now we are embracing even newer technologies. I actually advised my daughter against Gardasil. the drug is too new and I didn’t want her to be a test subject which is what it seemed to me what was happening. I wonder if we will ever learn to have patience before adopting some of these things into our lives. Sometimes we allow ourselves to become guinea pigs, and at what cost?

About vaccination. If your non-vaccinated child comes in contact with another non-vaccinated child who cannot vaccinate because of a health reason (but truly desires to be vaccinated) then we have potentially done harm to that child. And yet I do not want those who are non-vaccinated to be targets of hatred or isolated because of their refusal to vaccinate. In a pandemic, as merely an example, when fears are running high and there is a breakthrough modern vaccine using new technology, this could happen. Not that there will be a *miracle* vaccine this pandemic, but I can see how pressure to vaccinate could be quite strong. And who knows how that could be used?

Please feel free to post your comments and concerns at any time. As I said, working these things through is very important.

I pray God gives us much wisdom and discernment in the days ahead.

Warmly,
Jackie

I really appreciate the response. I am profoundly affected that you also witness for God. Indeed through him and
his gifts we can truly boost immunity and stand against disease and deceit in this volatile world. You are a living example of John 7:38 “He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, out of his heart shall flow rivers of
living water” Your graceful response is so evident of God’s true nature.

Vaccines are a tremendously complicated issue. I haven’t arrived at a final understanding, but at this point I am
quite skeptical of their efficacy and the zeal with which we are urged to immunize. I believe that in some cases
the vaccines that we are given are very deleterious for health down the road. The adjuncts used to bolster response
are most unnatural and the immune system may not be able to resolve these agents as they continue to stay in tissue.
It is not just one person that has made me skeptical of vaccines, it is CDC data and many sources and from researchers diligent efforts to find the truth.

Whooping cough is an interesting one, I have a co-worker who’s daughter contracted it also, very frightening. Measles outbreaks continue in school children who have been vaccinated. Whooping cough is seen in infants who have
been immunized (the CDC says it may take as long as 16 months for vaccinations to give full immunity) your daughter may have still contracted it even if she had received the complete regimen! We don’t even know for certain that the vaccine itself doesn’t cause a spread of the bacterium.

One issue I have with vaccines is in how they are accredited with wiping out disease when those very same diseases
were declining steeply prior to the vaccine ever being given. The graphing of this is remarkably interesting and should be taken into consideration. http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/2007/Nov_15_07/Scandal80.htm Pertussis incidence in Countries such as Germany where 10% or less of the population gets vaccinated is not significantly greater than vaccinated countries. Another factor in the ’spike’ in whooping cough is that we are diagnosing it as pertussis rather than a severe cold more often than previously. Also whooping cough not diagnosed in adults and youth may be causing the spread of the bacterium to infants. So far efficacy of boosters given to adults / teens
is not well established. It is not known even if the booster itself may cause transmission to newborns. When one
looks at the statistics of death rates of infants from whooping cough, it is clear that unless the child is premature or has other health issues death is exceedingly rare. Are the side effects of immunization a greater risk than the disease being treated? This is the question that I will ask of myself and any child that I might
have. If my unvaccinated child gets measles, your vaccinated child will be safe, …right? Really, really complex issue on dozens of different fronts. You are on point with regards to some of the current techniques being quite barbaric. If you decide to get the flu shot at the very least be sure to get the shot without thimerosal as it is available. The amount of thimerosal is so small says the CDC, but a well done study indicates repeated flu shots are implicated in higher incidence of alzheimers (and who knows what else).

Luckily, passionate faith and healthy living are far far more powerful than any vaccine program. God is healing people today, right this very minute in miraculous ways that far outshine pharma solutions. I do not entirely disagree with modern medicine, or say that I won’t give some vaccines to myself or child down the road
but I will continue to investigate and pray for discernment.
Warmly and inspired by your grace,
Bryan

My children never got the measles, polio, they never got diptheria or any of the other horrible childhood illnesses. My daughter got whooping cough because she could not finish the DTP protocal. Neither have I. I have had countless wounds and dog bites and have been very thankful for tetanus vaccine.

Before you strongly advocate against vaccination think of the lives that you yourself may be harming. And if we eliminate all vaccines or scare people into not taking them children will be harmed, people will die. Do you want that on your hands? I do not.

I am not saying that we can’t or shouldn’t make vaccines safer. I am not totally on the side of companies who create these newer vaccines in some very scary and morally reprehensible ways. The older vaccines worked and I don’t appreciate some of these new developments. But this is why I advocate for people to speak up and speak out.

I also believe that some of our best weapons against the spread of these infectious diseases is knowledge and wisdom. We can use non-pharmaceutical means to keep us much safer than we are right now.

I thank you for your comment and for reading my blog. You are good to speak up even if we don’t 100% agree.

BTW, garlic and oil of oregano is on my list. A balanced diet. Plenty of fresh air and exercise and above all, a moderate lifestyle. Deep preparedness includes all aspects of one’s life. As a Christian, my most important focus is on my relationship with God. When I seek wisdom from Him through His word there are amazing nuggets of information that are applicable for us today.

Shake off all apathy.

All the best,
Catherine

My friends know me as Jackie

The next pandemic is a socio-political creation, foisted upon us
by the very ones who will make the vaccine. Additionally
there are vile and reprehensible political agendas that will be furthered
during such a pandemic.

If I am wrong, then show me a study detailing the flu shots effectiveness
-NOT a link showing antibody creation. This is not a determinant of effectiveness
of any vaccine or flu shot.

For yourself I would strongly urge you to research thoroughly before accepting
any shot aimed at your arm.

You can bolster your immunity more effectively using common sense, excellent
eating practices and taking things such as garlic and oil of oregano.

Very truly,

Bryansail33

Acts 17:11 always applies even with this very blog. None of us are above error. When we think we are watch out.

My text is threaded with many verses (page by page). Thank you for responding

I spend a great deal of my time trying to uncover the emergent church deception that is so prevalent today. This heresy, the blatant disregard for the supremacy of Scripture in favor of a feel good approach to Christian living is truly Laodicean. So many have fallen away completely blind to this error.

I posted the following to my Facebook page as a direct result of a conversation with a friend of mine who is following “The Purpose Driven Life” and “Purpose Driven Church”. Having not read your book I do not know your point of view on this. My view is as follows….

Matthew 24 >>
New American Standard Bible ©

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Signs of Christ’s Return

Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. And He said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.”

As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. “For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. “But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

“Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. “At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. “Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. “Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Perilous Times

“Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. “Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. “Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. “Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. 24 “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. “Behold, I have told you in advance. “So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. “For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. “Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

The Glorious Return

“But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. “And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. “And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Parable of the Fig Tree

“Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 “For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. “For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. “Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. “Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.

Be Ready for His Coming

“Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. “But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. “For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.

“Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? “Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes.

“Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. “But if that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is not coming for a long time,’ and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know, and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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“Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold”

What is Biblical love and does it carry a responsibility to the Truth? Is it a feeling or what we do?

“Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart. For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. For,
“All men are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of the Lord stands forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you. ~1 Peter 1:22-25 (NASB)

Permissiveness is not love.

Therefore, prepare your minds for action; be self-controlled; set your hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed. As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance. But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:13-16

Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.” ~1 Corinthians 13:4-8

“Do not love the world nor the things in the world If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.” ~1 John 2:15-16

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Do those in the emergent church movement love Jesus Christ. Yes. But are they falling into grave error, yes. Have they lost the narrow way? Most probably. While we must be sensitive to our culture and contextualize in order to reach those who are perishing we must never compromise the Gospel itself. Scripture must NEVER be allowed to become secondary to our human experience. Olsteen and others have assigned “back of the book” status to the Word of God.

“I don’t believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion. It may be advisable in many (not all!) circumstances to help people become followers of Jesus and remain within their Buddhist, Hindu or Jewish contexts … rather than resolving the paradox via pronouncements on the eternal destiny of people more convinced by or loyal to other religions than ours, we simply move on … To help Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, and everyone else experience life to the full in the way of Jesus (while learning it better myself), I would gladly become one of them whoever they are, to whatever degree I can, to embrace them, to join them, to enter into their world without judgment but with saving love as mine has been entered by the Lord.” –Brian McLaren

“If you have felt hopeless hold on! Wonderful changes are going to happen in your life as you begin to live it on purpose. God says, “I know what I am planning for you…. ‘I have good plans for you, not plans to hurt you. I will give you hope and a good future.’” –Rick Warren on Jeremiah 29:11

Here is Jeremiah 29:11 in context….(ah, the sufficiency of the Word of God!)

Jeremiah 29:8-14 (NASB)

“For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream. ‘For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the LORD. “For thus says the LORD, ‘When seventy years have been completed for Babylon, I will visit you and fulfill My good word to you, to bring you back to this place. ‘For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. ‘Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. ‘You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. ‘I will be found by you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will restore your fortunes and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will bring you back to the place from where I sent you into exile.’

Let the full Word of the Lord penetrate your heart.
If I did not love you, I would not bother to tell you this. Do not be deceived.

Certain words like cluster, epidemic, outbreak, hysteria, panic, fear, spreading, uncontrollable, failure, these are all evocative words that must be used very carefully. They may have their place in risk communication but there is a time and place. But then, saying that, makes me sound like I am attempting to manipulate the flow of information. It isn’t that so much as I know that certain words at certain times during our understanding of these things as members of the public at large can really do more harm than good. Adjustment reactions are hard things sometimes and there are times when people really have trouble making it through them. I just do not want to be one who adds to anyone’s burden unnecessarily.

I can explain how a pandemic balls starts rolling across the globe with increasing sizes and numbers of clusters but I got to the point in my communication where I did not see the point of doing so. When I look someone in the eye and tell them why pandemic influenza needs to be mitigated and how a flu vaccination may help them they get the point without me having to tell them of an imminence that may not be there yet.

To me, this is so much like spreading the Gospel message. The importance isn’t in the imminent return of our Lord (although I long for and look forward to His return). The importance of the Gospel message is in Jesus Christ’s atonement for our sins on the cross. If you understand and accept *that* His imminent return, while not unimportant, is in proper perspective. We want a deep abiding faith and not a foxhole faith (although a foxhole faith works).

What I want is for people to understand that we are in a normal cycle of ebb and flo which is made a bit worse because of how we have structured our modern world (JIT delivery etc.). The problem is not insurmountable but we have to work at it. Failure to work at it will result in more death than the disease itself would have caused.

Rigorous analysis of these news stories is accomplished on some of the forums like Plan for Pandemic and Pandemic Flu Information Forum, Zonegrippeaviare, La Grippe Aviaire, and Flutrackers. Over the years we were able to discuss these news items, their importance, and their deeper meaning. Greater flublogia has done some amazing work and these are mostly just citizens like me in their own countries working on this common issue of understanding a terrible problem and how to safeguard themselves and their families. A few of us have taken this work a bit further into our communities.

Without the news and information I doubt that all that has been done would have even been carried this far. I know that it doesn’t seem like much but Readymom’s Alliance and GetPandemicReady has reached thousands of people already with solid pandemic preparedness information.

Knowing what is happening in these far flung places around the globe does help us to know how to temper our words.

When I hear of larger clusters anywhere in the world (and know for sure that it is H5N1, or another novel strain of influenza and not a local outbreak of Dengue, Malaria, Chikungunya, yellow fever or ebola etc.), I will probably turn up the heat of my words. Not because I am panicking but because time to “pre”pare will be over and it will be time to put action and response in its place. I do have to keep an eye on the horizon and the news aggregators help.

Do I think that we in the public will receive timely information? Unfortunately my state has every intention of informing the public after it is too late to prepare. Once a state of emergency is declared much too little can be accomplished. I have read the response “triggers” and I do not understand how they can think a family of 4 making under $35,000 per year would be able to stock up for an extended period of time in their home. If we are expecting a category 1 or 2 pandemic, fine, that would work. If we are expecting anything beyond a category 3, um, that is way less than fine. There are no guarantees that H5N1 (or any virus that becomes H2H) will attenuate. There are many variables at play here. Because there is no guarantee “first, do no harm” tells me that informing the public in enough time for them to prepare is crucial.

So we have gone full circle here…”how might we marry graded awareness with a more gentle, graded social response?”

Sometimes “gentle” just does not work. Sometimes the brutal, honest, straightforward truth is what is needed. A brimstone and fire sermon had it’s place (and probably should be preached today). As for me, I would rather deal with a little panic now, before the pandemic, than during the initial stages where congregating to prepare will just spread the virus further faster.

So just because few are watching these news reports doesn’t mean that they are without worth. They are worthy. How we who blog discuss them and bring them to peoples attention….with great care, at least for me. I pray about the words that are laid on my heart every single time I sit down to post.

Thanks Jim. You have made me think. That is always good. :-)

I pray that you have, that we all have, a healthy New Year!

Catherine